Sooo. How AWESOME will the graphics be in Guild Wars 2? - Guild Wars Forums

Tahlia Tane · May 20, 2007, 01:32 PM // 13:32

A few things have been revealed about Guild Wars 2 and so far it's sounding pretty darn good. ArenaNet can consider me hyped for their next game, I have very high hopes for it. There's been some talk about what will be different, and that there will be races to choose from (!) instead of just humans. Buuuuuut...

There hasn't been any info on the graphics as of yet. And I'm very curious how Guild Wars 2 will look like, graphically! Is it going to feature some ground-breaking graphics like the original Guild Wars for its time or is it going to be a minor upgrade from the original? I'm hoping for the former of course, and that is what is most likely. If ArenaNet knows a thing or two, it's definately graphics and how to make it run nice and smooth across every mainstream PC...

Any word on this?

Seffapotamus · May 20, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34

Theyve said that it will be able to run on medium-range PC's. I expect them to be good, but it's not going to be crysis.

zwei2stein · May 20, 2007, 01:38 PM // 13:38

You should care more about game being actually fun to play.

JeniM · May 20, 2007, 01:38 PM // 13:38

I personal would prefer a game that i can run to some HD super graphics game as my comp will be way out of date in 2 years

Avarre · May 20, 2007, 01:44 PM // 13:44

Graphics attract players, but gameplay keeps them.

I wouldn't be surprised if the graphics are superb; but then again, so were Guild Wars 1's. There isn't a huge cause to upgrade the graphics even further when so much gameplay needs prior work.

As mentioned, I hope that if they do raise the level of graphics significantly, it will still be able to run on lower specs.

Anphobia · May 20, 2007, 01:47 PM // 13:47

Well, it most likely will be a Direct X 10 game...so I'll be needing a new GFX card anyhoo!

Guildmaster Cain · May 20, 2007, 02:32 PM // 14:32

So basically you ask what will pc graphics look like in 2 years time?

Lets just waiiiiiiiiit.... and see.

Lonesamurai · May 20, 2007, 02:36 PM // 14:36

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Originally Posted by Anphobia

Well, it most likely will be a Direct X 10 game...so I'll be needing a new GFX card anyhoo!

Nope, its already been stated that it will run on Dx9, which is very good methinks

Zorglubb · May 20, 2007, 02:50 PM // 14:50

DX10 doesn't really bring graphics improvements, it's just a way for MS to force people into Vista.
The first DX10/DX9 comparisons benchmarks (like Call of Juarez) actually rely on improved textures to get an improved look, except that DX9 could run those textures just fine as well (as modders proved), and DX9 even ran the "DX10 shaders" faster.

Right now, DX10 is still a dud. Maybe there are hidden goodies, but given what has been coming from MS lately, I doubt it.

kimahri · May 20, 2007, 03:06 PM // 15:06

The graphics will be *measures out with hands* this good.

Tahlia Tane · May 20, 2007, 03:14 PM // 15:14

Of course I know it's going to be good. I have some common sense too you know. I just want to hear the details to get me hyped a little.

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

You should care more about game being actually fun to play.

Guild Wars 2 will be awesome to play, I have zero doubts about that, honestly. I care more about gameplay than graphics, but that doesn't mean I can't discuss the graphics... I don't see what you're getting at, bro.

Kook~NBK~ · May 20, 2007, 03:59 PM // 15:59

I'm guessing that the graphics for GW2 will be better than the ones for Pong.

Zinger314 · May 20, 2007, 04:03 PM // 16:03

I think they will be worse than Guild Wars 1. Why? It's a persistant world: if the game had the graphic quality outside of towns with the same number of people inside towns, along with spells and effects, it would murder most computers.

That's how WoW can do 40v40 battles; graphics aren't that detailed, but they are efficient. I don't think Guild Wars could handle a 40v40 battle with the current engine.

Tahlia Tane · May 20, 2007, 04:20 PM // 16:20

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

I think they will be worse than Guild Wars 1. Why? It's a persistant world: if the game had the graphic quality outside of towns with the same number of people inside towns, along with spells and effects, it would murder most computers.

That's how WoW can do 40v40 battles; graphics aren't that detailed, but they are efficient. I don't think Guild Wars could handle a 40v40 battle with the current engine.

You make an excellent point. Unforunately we don't know quite how exactly the world of Guild Wars 2 will be persistent. From the examples ArenaNet has given us, they meant persistent that your actions permanently change certain things and they remain that way. So those are persistent and don't change when you zone back in and out. Or something. Btw I've never been in a 40vs40 battle in WoW. But overal, looking at how many things are on the screen, Guild Wars runs better than WoW. But I agree that they are not entirely comparable due to the true MMORPG nature of WoW.

But I don't think Guild Wars 2 will have worse graphics to accomodate the things you have in WoW, simply because I believe it won't have to accomodate those things, i.e. it won't be a regular MMORPG where you need to be able to display 100+ characters at once, tops.

bhavv · May 20, 2007, 04:51 PM // 16:51

I believe the graphics will be far better then GW1.

Firstly they have stated the game will run on DX9, however I believe this to be a minimum. Im sure the game will support DX10 features with a DX9 card required to run it with the settings turned down.

Since GW1 requires a DX8 card, there will surely be a vast improvement.

Also, If they stated the game will run on mid range computers, dont forget that means mid range computers in two years time when they release the game, and considering that right now mid range is Nvidia 8600 and ATI 2600 (out in a few days), that will be very advanced.

Every time i lag · May 20, 2007, 04:55 PM // 16:55

i think they will be great
but i prefer more bigger fights like massive ab then graphics xD

The Great Al · May 20, 2007, 04:56 PM // 16:56

GW1 graphics are pretty sweet, I wouldn't even mind if there wasn't a noticeable difference.

Amon Warrior · May 20, 2007, 05:14 PM // 17:14

I hope that the graphic part of the game will have good scaling options, so that a wide range of people (with different computer specs) will still be able to play the game.

That would be in sync with the low requirement on bandwidth that they have right now and the monthly-fee absence that allows all sorts of people to play this game. I sure love the concept; quality online game for ALL!

Having said that, I do hope that the aesthetics in the game will shine brighter on high-end systems!

And it will be interesting to see how they are going to cope with the number of simultaneous players. It REALLY is fun when you have a big group to fight with...

Mournblade · May 20, 2007, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Screw GW2... What do you think the graphics will be like for GW3?!?!?!

IlikeGW · May 20, 2007, 08:05 PM // 20:05

the pc gamer article of yore said a bit about it. new shaders, as well as race specific looks via shaders... a new unified armor system... basically all next gen goodies that you can turn off if your computer is lame. I think there still has to be some tradeoff. You can't do 200 mb's of textures per area for a giant streaming game so don't expect it to look like crysis. if they exercise careful balance over image quality vs. space constraints, which they already did in GW1, then I see no reason why it won't look good.

May 20, 2007, 01:32 PM // 13:32	#1
Tahlia Tane Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2006 Profession: W/	Sooo. How AWESOME will the graphics be in Guild Wars 2? A few things have been revealed about Guild Wars 2 and so far it's sounding pretty darn good. ArenaNet can consider me hyped for their next game, I have very high hopes for it. There's been some talk about what will be different, and that there will be races to choose from (!) instead of just humans. Buuuuuut... There hasn't been any info on the graphics as of yet. And I'm very curious how Guild Wars 2 will look like, graphically! Is it going to feature some ground-breaking graphics like the original Guild Wars for its time or is it going to be a minor upgrade from the original? I'm hoping for the former of course, and that is what is most likely. If ArenaNet knows a thing or two, it's definately graphics and how to make it run nice and smooth across every mainstream PC... Any word on this?

May 20, 2007, 01:44 PM // 13:44	#5
Avarre Bubblegum Patrol Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore Armed Forces	Graphics attract players, but gameplay keeps them. I wouldn't be surprised if the graphics are superb; but then again, so were Guild Wars 1's. There isn't a huge cause to upgrade the graphics even further when so much gameplay needs prior work. As mentioned, I hope that if they do raise the level of graphics significantly, it will still be able to run on lower specs. __________________ And the heavens shall tremble.

May 20, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34	#2
Seffapotamus Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Profession: Mo/	Theyve said that it will be able to run on medium-range PC's. I expect them to be good, but it's not going to be crysis.

May 20, 2007, 01:38 PM // 13:38	#3
zwei2stein Grotto Attendant Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Europe Guild: The German Order [GER] Profession: N/	You should care more about game being actually fun to play.

May 20, 2007, 01:38 PM // 13:38	#4
JeniM Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Profession: W/E	I personal would prefer a game that i can run to some HD super graphics game as my comp will be way out of date in 2 years

May 20, 2007, 01:47 PM // 13:47	#6
Anphobia Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2006 Profession: R/Me	Well, it most likely will be a Direct X 10 game...so I'll be needing a new GFX card anyhoo!

May 20, 2007, 02:32 PM // 14:32	#7
Guildmaster Cain Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2006 Location: Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D] Guild: Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]	So basically you ask what will pc graphics look like in 2 years time? Lets just waiiiiiiiiit.... and see.

May 20, 2007, 02:50 PM // 14:50	#9
Zorglubb Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2007	DX10 doesn't really bring graphics improvements, it's just a way for MS to force people into Vista. The first DX10/DX9 comparisons benchmarks (like Call of Juarez) actually rely on improved textures to get an improved look, except that DX9 could run those textures just fine as well (as modders proved), and DX9 even ran the "DX10 shaders" faster. Right now, DX10 is still a dud. Maybe there are hidden goodies, but given what has been coming from MS lately, I doubt it.

May 20, 2007, 03:06 PM // 15:06	#10
kimahri Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB] Profession: E/	The graphics will be measures out with hands this good.

May 20, 2007, 03:59 PM // 15:59	#12
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	I'm guessing that the graphics for GW2 will be better than the ones for Pong.

May 20, 2007, 04:03 PM // 16:03	#13
Zinger314 Debbie Downer Join Date: May 2006 Profession: N/Me	I think they will be worse than Guild Wars 1. Why? It's a persistant world: if the game had the graphic quality outside of towns with the same number of people inside towns, along with spells and effects, it would murder most computers. That's how WoW can do 40v40 battles; graphics aren't that detailed, but they are efficient. I don't think Guild Wars could handle a 40v40 battle with the current engine.

May 20, 2007, 04:51 PM // 16:51	#15
bhavv Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2006	I believe the graphics will be far better then GW1. Firstly they have stated the game will run on DX9, however I believe this to be a minimum. Im sure the game will support DX10 features with a DX9 card required to run it with the settings turned down. Since GW1 requires a DX8 card, there will surely be a vast improvement. Also, If they stated the game will run on mid range computers, dont forget that means mid range computers in two years time when they release the game, and considering that right now mid range is Nvidia 8600 and ATI 2600 (out in a few days), that will be very advanced.

May 20, 2007, 04:55 PM // 16:55	#16
Every time i lag Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Belgium Guild: Murder Death Sadists Of Doom [MDSD] Profession: E/Me	i think they will be great but i prefer more bigger fights like massive ab then graphics xD

May 20, 2007, 04:56 PM // 16:56	#17
The Great Al Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: ALOA Profession: E/Me	GW1 graphics are pretty sweet, I wouldn't even mind if there wasn't a noticeable difference.

May 20, 2007, 05:14 PM // 17:14	#18
Amon Warrior Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2006 Profession: W/	I hope that the graphic part of the game will have good scaling options, so that a wide range of people (with different computer specs) will still be able to play the game. That would be in sync with the low requirement on bandwidth that they have right now and the monthly-fee absence that allows all sorts of people to play this game. I sure love the concept; quality online game for ALL! Having said that, I do hope that the aesthetics in the game will shine brighter on high-end systems! And it will be interesting to see how they are going to cope with the number of simultaneous players. It REALLY is fun when you have a big group to fight with...

May 20, 2007, 07:53 PM // 19:53	#19
Mournblade Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Guild: Dawn Treaders [DAWN] Profession: W/Mo	Screw GW2... What do you think the graphics will be like for GW3?!?!?!

May 20, 2007, 08:05 PM // 20:05	#20
IlikeGW Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005	the pc gamer article of yore said a bit about it. new shaders, as well as race specific looks via shaders... a new unified armor system... basically all next gen goodies that you can turn off if your computer is lame. I think there still has to be some tradeoff. You can't do 200 mb's of textures per area for a giant streaming game so don't expect it to look like crysis. if they exercise careful balance over image quality vs. space constraints, which they already did in GW1, then I see no reason why it won't look good.